Feedback Should we have older OP items removed...

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  1. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    Well there are 2 ways to look at it. I have been able to explain it to quite a few people and some get it while others don't.

    Yes there are DK that got a bugged 2hnd sword and yes it has .1 attack speed increased. Now that Legendaries are 10% higher values you can find better 2hnd swords at the Legendary level as compared to the old. Now granted the crit 2hnd and the powerful 2hnd are not the sword. The sword was the fast one the axe the critical one and the club hammer was the powerful one.

    So here is a question for you to think about. Next release every item you own had stats that where to high. So to balance it out they removed all your gear and gave you un identified gear and all of you GoP back. Would you be playing the gear after they did that. I would venture that 75% of them would move to another game. What are the number of DK that had the faster 2hnd if they where to gimp them would they quit. I think if you see how much the DK lost already that one thing would break a lot of people's hearts and the number of DK would drop off alot more.
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2015
  2. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    That is not a mistake of the older players. That is not a mistake of the newer players. That is a mistake of BP so BP should come up with the win-win solution for both parties. Making older OP items obsolete by introducing better items seems to be the reasonable way.

    I was certain the only or the primary goal of the crit nerf was to solve the old issue with LLL by introducing much more powerful item set. That was my mistake.
     
  3. Zamvel7

    Zamvel7 Active Author


    i just dont like the idea, i dont know if my gear is op, since i keep dying sometimes o_O, giving me an identified gear would just pissed me off, since i have farmed and study which gear i should keep and which just melt, in other words that new indentified gear wont be my personal choice and perhaps i'll melt it.
     
  4. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    Since the legendaries can be 10% more from now on that means the new 2hnd sword legendaries only can be more powerful.
     
  5. Zamvel7

    Zamvel7 Active Author

    maybe so, but tell me how many of them you will need to craft or find, to be honest in my 2 years of playing i have just found one nice 2 axe and tons of good gops
     
  6. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    OK a lesson on why the lower level legendary items got so powerful. The items used to have mods of a different level as compared to the item level. So if you had an item (generally with 1 % mod) that had a lower level mod and 3 higher level mods then the first level up will bring all attributes up to the next level. Upon doing this if one mode jumps up 3 levels then the other mods also gain 3 levels. Now each of the normal mods are 3 plus levels higher than the item level.

    Example.

    Level 8 Legendary crystal.
    6,2% Critical damage Level 6 mod
    12 critical value level 8 mod
    10 critical hit value level 7 mod
    11 critical hit value level 8 mod

    upgrade to level 9 cost the same as a level 6 crystal upgraded to level 9 so the first gop cost is 3x higher.

    6,2% CD LVL 9
    18 CHV LVL 11
    17 CHV LVL 10
    17 CHV LVL 11

    now each upgrade is going to cost the same as if the level 6 item was upgraded to the current level and all the mods will get a higher upgrade stat.

    Well Random has that as part of it plight. I however get a ton of good drops for my mech. So much so people can get slightly upset at times. I try to only mention everyother time I get one.
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2015
  7. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    Why are we still having this discussion? BP has already demonstrated how unpopular and unfair it is, to take things away from players.

    As was pointed out repeatedly in the forums, the only way to move on smoothly is to move everyone up.
    Let all the players get better, and they can fight it out, peacefully. :p
     
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  8. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    I started this thread to remove it out of the CM thread. Debating in that thread does not help. People want to voice their opinion is a good thing as long as it is done in peace.
     
  9. Zamvel7

    Zamvel7 Active Author


    i am with you bro or sis
     
  10. moby31

    moby31 Regular

    Bp has to declare what is going to be done in this situation ,cuz low lvl items are simply Op so as the player who use them .
    Just now this is not a big problem cuz everyone is busy farming or simply just doesn't play anymore but when it will come to the guild battles this will be a huge issue .
    Average low lvl item at lvl 45 is giving +20% and up,more to hit critical rate ,where is that balance which Bp is talking about ???
    Removing critical rate from ordinary ppl left those with low lvl items even more Op .
    This can't stay the way it is just now and personally I do not believe that adding more critical rate to the new lg items will solve this issue ,we had a taste of this after 155 and this isn't working .
    Bug is continued and sadly BP turned a blind eye to the problem .
     
  11. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    I need to find a legendary item with crit on it. Might just make several when I get the gold. I am level 40 atm and I have a 45 will check each toon for crit lines and compare just to have a shred of truth.
     
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